To the Independent Record, Helena, Montana, Al Gore and Steven Running.
In response to an “IR view” from the Opinion page of the Independent Record, with no author, page 4A Wednesday, January 28, 2009 (A Political approach to science findings)
I, Bruce Kershaw of Helena Montana, challenge the Independent Record newspaper, Al Gore and Steven Running to a mock court trial on whether CO2 can cause extreme cooling or warming.
Maybe the city of Helena would donate the civic center. Perhaps a local judge with more than three years of experience would donate their time. Maybe Karla Gray would be interested. You could ask Steven Running, who has yet to respond to the evidence I sent him twice over the last year to join us, maybe Al Gore would like to defend his Hypothesis and represent the paper. You could charge a small fee to any one who would like to watch and donate the funds to Water Works, they provide water wells in third world countries.
– Or A real trial in The House Chamber of The State of Montana.-
– or The Montana State Supreme Court-
– or if the United States Supreme Court-
would like to hear the Argument, I am ready!
Carbon base oxygen: C and O2, carbon dioxide, one carbon atom bonded to dioxide (O2) (two oxygen atoms bonded together)
Carbon dioxide is the byproduct of Heat, not the cause, inside and outside the human body
I eat carbon, breathe dioxide, and exhale dioxide, and carbon dioxide.
If there was no sun light, there would be no life on this planet.
If there was no water, there would be no life on this planet.
If there was no carbon, there would be no life on this planet.
If there was no dioxide, there would be no life on this planet.
The human body is, water, carbon and dioxide.
Carbon and dioxide – together – make plants and trees, to be food and energy.
Carbon and dioxide – apart – make human beings, to eat the plants and fruit from the trees.
The first life giving atmosphere on Earth, for over four billion years, was all carbon dioxide, one part carbon and two parts oxygen, as a direct result of volcanic activity, carbon dioxide is the cause of all plant life below and later above sea level.
The dioxide we breathe (O2) comes from carbon dioxide, the carbon we eat, comes from carbon dioxide, one part carbon, two parts oxygen. It is recycled carbon and oxygen ( CO2 ), the plants and trees absorb the carbon, to be food for us to eat, leaving us the dioxide to breathe. We exhale carbon and dioxide, (CO2) one carbon atom with dioxide, (two oxygen atoms together).
I can prove, far beyond overwhelming certainty, that science has known, more than 100 years , carbon and oxygen together, (CO2) is a refrigerant at any temperature and causes extreme cooling, and with out carbon dioxide, carbon and oxygen, (CO2), there would be no life on this planet.
My -very- proven science facts, have been ready for over thirty six years and eighty years, MY Legal Argument, Becomes Stronger Every Day.
– Science and Legal Argument-
Mr. Steven Running, your public statements in the Independent Record Feb. 4, 2009 are false, Mr. Running, you have yet to provide any solid, hard scientific evidence or proof, of any kind, that carbon and oxygen together, cause global warming.
Mr. Running, you stated the cycles of the sun have no climatic effects, are you unaware of the multitude of fifty year long studies, out of the last two hundred years of studies, of the sun, do you deny the science evidence.
Our star the sun, (hydrogen atoms colliding, so hard and fast, causing light, while converting to helium), is getting brighter and warmer, every day, till one day it vaporizes the earth.
we know from over fifty years of study, the sun continues an eleven year cycle, and with the earths changing orbit cycle, the earth can be three million miles closer or further from the sun, now add the wobble of the earth axis, causing a continuing change in the earth’s poles, causing ever changing ice caps, with all the above, causing ever changing weather patterns for billions of years, now add earths magnetic field, the moon, volcanoes, the oceans, the ozone, the clouds, and asteroids, all effecting evaporation fluctuation and climate change.
Mr. Running, you stated, the denial of your science is no different than the tobacco companies denying cancer, So why, Mr. Running, would The Doctors for Disaster Preparedness and The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, plot a conspiracy against your science, or the 32,000 individual Doctors and PhDs who signed a petition stating your science is flawed ?
– I would not use the word consensus.
Frederick Seitz, the Past President of The National Academy of Sciences, disagreed with you before passing away in 2008. So why, Mr. Running, are the best of the best scientists stating your unproven science is flawed ?
Every professional scientist I have spoken with in the last two years, disagrees with you, the only people I know of that agree with you, have no science background, or are paid by the government or corporate special interest groups or lobbyists.
Mr. Running, you stated that you firmly believe humans are responsible for global warming, so where is the proof ? Firmly Believe is not evidence or proof, Firmly Believe is faith and religion.
Mr. Running, you stated carbon dioxide, carbon and oxygen together, (CO2) is garbage. so is it the carbon part, that plants and trees absorb from CO2, that becomes our food for our carbon base bodies, or the dioxide, two oxygen atoms from CO2, we all breathe, the garbage? Or are You denying, plants and trees absorb the carbon from CO2, or the human body is a carbon base, or the human body needs dioxide (O2) to breathe, (two oxygen atoms together). Both are by products of CO2. and for the last 100 plus years, pure carbon dioxide, has been Dry Ice at any and all temperatures, when solid, liquid or a gas.
Mr. Running, your Hypothesis and your prediction machine has been proven to be false and untrue. You are wrong Mr. Running, and there is no conspiracy against your science, your science is going through a transition, from a media / government psychic consensus, to a real scientific consensus, your science is bad science, your hypothesis and non-existing evidence has been proven with hard science, to simply, be wrong, before you even started your computer hypothesis.
And by the way, Mr. Running, the Pine Beetles have been here in Montana for over 14,000 years, and this is not the first pine beetle epidemic, and Montana already has lots of cactus and sagebrush, Montana is a high desert, normal weather in Helena Montana, 800 years ago, was northern California weather.
And yes, Mr. Running, walking to work is a good idea, walking ten to twenty miles to work and home every day, with the children and groceries, in -20 degree weather will help reduce the number of people exhaling carbon dioxide.
Only about ten to twelve percent of us on the planet drive cars, most of us drive, less than one hour a day, but we all exhale carbon dioxide, twenty four/seven, for about seventy years, so you will be very happy to know Mr. Running that two thirds of all the woman on this planet walk up to five hours every single day of their life, just to retrieve what I hope is clean drinking water, to keep her family alive, and then there is the forty thousand humans who die of starvation every day. Now that will help you reduce human caused carbon dioxide.
Mr. Running did you know that all the lungs on this planet, produce more carbon dioxide than all the cars? only 12% of us drive cars, for 1 hour a day or less.
And funding, Mr. Running? You are very well funded, I am funded by nothing. I am a one man show, no one is helping me in any way. I represent science, Mr. Running, what do you represent?
Yes, our planet Earth is warmer at night as it it is cooler during the day, with an atmosphere, than it is with out an atmosphere, that is true with any planet, and CO2 is to little of the atmosphere to contribute warming or cooling. If there was no atmosphere, it could be – 200 degrees below zero at night and + 200 degrees all day.
Mr. Running, you teach ecology, but you have failed physics, chemistry, biology, atmospheric science and earth science history, but you firmly believe Mr. Running, in something you can not prove, maybe you should teach faith and religion, rather than science.
There is no faith in science, only facts. I do not believe you are wrong Mr. Running, I have facts not faith, to prove you wrong.
I am all green Mr. Running, I cannot wait to own an electric car, and make electricity from the sun, and stop sending money to countries that sponsor hate and terrorism, or to the energy companies that take, more than their fair share.
Mr. Running, your faith and wish in saving this planet would destroy the foundation for all life on this planet.
When the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Yasser Arafat, a Terrorist responsible for the death of tens of thousands if not millions of human beings, the award became meaningless, and nothing more than a political statement. You are a political statement Mr. Running.
I must challenge your faith Mr. Running, for you have no real science to challenge.
Mr. Running, for you to succeed, with your unproven theory, by removing all the carbon dioxide from the air, every living thing on this planet would die.
Today, the media and government, have no real science or real truth on Global Warming, it is psychic science, based only on money, politics and faith, at the same time very large numbers of doctors and scientist, are waving their arms, jumping up and down, yelling and screaming at the top of their lungs, wait a minute, we have no proven science yet! that carbon and oxygen together can cause warming, but we do have eighty year old proven, hard science evidence, and forty year old proven, hard science evidence, that carbon and oxygen together causes extreme cooling. While at the same time, governments are legislating and passing new laws based on psychic Ouija board science, completely Ignoring the voices of tens of thousands of the best scientist, with proven science fact, and history, showing carbon dioxide causes life and cooling.
You know you are in big trouble, when legislators, who would fail a fifth grade science exam, are passing new laws, based only on hearsay and rumor.
I can roll the dice all day long till I get the desired results, and do the same with a computer, or computer model. Manipulated information going in, and manipulated prediction coming out.
So far the predictions have been wrong. A prediction from a computer is not hard science and proves nothing, it is nothing more than a guess and a prediction.
In the last ten years, we have had no increase in warming, and in the last six years, we have had an increase in cooling, proven by many studies, and yes the glaishers are still melting, they have been melting for fourteen thousand plus years, not forty years.
CO2 has been a natural substance in the air for over four billion plus years, with out it, there would be no life on this planet. Calling CO2 pollution is like calling sunlight or water or dioxide (two oxygen atoms) pollution, and the more efficiently you burn fuel, the more CO2 you produce, that is how we have measured fuel efficiency for the last forty plus years. The more efficiently the human body can breathe dioxide, the higher level of carbon dioxide the lungs produce, so plants and trees can breathe, and turn it back in to dioxide for us to breathe, again, and again and again and again. The dioxide we breathe comes from recycled CO2, one part carbon and two parts oxygen. That is called energy balance.
Today the air is 78 percent nitrogen, (nitrogen is a refrigerant), twenty one percent O2 (dioxide) two oxygen atoms, oxygen is a by product of CO2, that allows the release of energy in side and out side the human body, and then the dioxide transforms back to carbon dioxide, CO2 is only one one-hundredth to four one-hundreds of one percent of the air, CO2 is a refrigerant, and is the by product of heat. CO2 is the reason we have (o2) two oxygen atoms together (dioxide). one part carbon – two parts oxygen. dioxide and carbon dioxide is in a continuous recycling processes, of all life and energy.
We know after many years of many studies, there is no connection between air temperature and CO2 causing warming. In fact, earth science history shows us, a direct connection to increased, and healthier plant growth, when carbon dioxide levels are higher, Documented in the – Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons- volume 12, number- 3 – fall- 2007- 79-90. www.jpands.org
We know from real science, it was warmer 800 years ago than today, just prior to a little ice age, we are still coming out of, even today.
The ocean was three hundred and fifty feet lower, twenty four thousand years ago, and twenty feet higher, one hundred and thirty five thousand years ago. In between the last eight ice ages, there has been global warming cycles, much warmer than today.
Over the last twelve months, I have asked many politicians, and media, to send me their evidence, carbon and oxygen together, CO2, carbon dioxide, causes warming. I have had two responses,
The first response stated:
“As you may know, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (un ipcc) released a report in February 2007 stating with (over 90% certainty) that Climate Change is caused by human action.”
The second of only two responses:
“While much legislation is introduced and supported on hearsay, there is a large body of peer-reviewed publications that the ( claim ) that atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases are causing global warming and subsequently climate change.”
There is no such thing as 90% certainty.
Hearsay and claim is not scientific evidence.
A lecture or opinion is not proven scientific data.
I guess that means they have no real science evidence or proof, of any kind, and only human action, can cause global warming ?
The first response, was from U.S. Senator of Montana Max Baucus, and the second response from Montana state house representative Mike Phillips of Bozeman. Two replies, out of fifty plus requests, from the government, and no responses from the media or Al Gore and Steven Running.
Well there it is, the governments evidence, the media evidence and Mr. Al Gore and Steven Running evidence, that carbon and oxygen bonded together causes warming, no proven science evidence of any kind. There are millions of people waiting to see proven science evidence, where is it?
A local politician I talked to, about two or three weeks ago said, there is two sides to every story, and as Ed turned and walked away from me, I told him the Independent Record only prints their side of the story. The side they only wish to believe. But he already made up his mind, with out proven scientific evidence, all he needed, is hearsay.
When Media provides, only one political perspective, of many, on one subject matter, is not simply bias, it is by political definition, fascist.
To purposely withhold proven science fact from the public, to further impose their own personal false belief, of unproven science, is not only irresponsible, it is fraudulent, and the very same can be said about government, religion and corporations.
An unproved Theory is only a Hypothesis, not a consensus, and a computer model prediction, is as reliable as a Ouija board, Today 31,000 scientists do not accept the fuzzy science of Human caused Global Warming, Nature is the cause of Global Warming, not mankind.
CO2 causing extreme cooling is not a theory, It is a proven fact since 1832 and a re-proven fact about 1972, and will be a proven fact once again for the third time soon.
How many times must we re-learn the same lesson, why must history keep repeating itself ? So once again we have forgotten proven science fact.
Any hospital lab technician on this planet for the last thirty plus years, can tell you , CO2 turns under ground water to ACID, we already pump CO2 in to the ground and have already turned underground water to – ACID- we have been doing it for many years, but, do to media/government hype, we have a new industry up and running based on unproven Ouija Board science.
Profits and greed take the place of common sense.
– If – CO2 finds its way into natural gas reserves, it would only take a small percentage of CO2 in a well, and the gas will not burn.
About eighty years ago scientists discovered CO2 is a refrigerant, we call it -Dry Ice-
About forty years ago automotive scientists discovered CO2 is a refrigerant at any temperature, and lowers the explosion temperature five hundred degrees in your cars engine, to reduce the amount of (nox) Oxides of nitrogen from the tail pipes of our cars, in order to meet EPA emission standards set back in the early 1970’s, still very strictly enforced today.
Today the government is (still) spending billions of dollars on, unlocking the secret to, pure CO2, Dry Ice, causing warming, (it is still unproven)
Maybe someone should tell the government scientists that Dry Ice, pure CO2, carbon and oxygen together, is (still) a refrigerant, and our bodies and the food we eat, is from in the carbon in CO2, Plants and trees get the carbon, we get the dioxide (two oxygen atoms), and then we get to eat the plants, and build homes, with the trees, or burn the trees for heat, making more CO2 so plants and trees can breathe again, leaving once again, dioxide for us humans, exhaling CO2, carbon and oxygen together, so plants and trees can breathe once again. That is recycling life and energy. -The Truth Shall Set Thee Free-
Today science is to specialized, to many scientist today, do not have a good clear understanding of all science fields in general, or past forgotten science. My guess is, most people including politicians and media would fail a fifth grade science exam. If you do not have a clear understanding of all science fields, you will never have a clear understanding of Dry Ice, pure CO2, carbon and oxygen together.
Political scientists believe we have had climate change for forty years, Real scientists know we have had very severe climate change for the last four billion plus years.
Legislation based only on Hypothesis, is not foolish, It is complete total stupidity, but removing two natural elements, that plants and trees and humans require for life, goes far beyond complete total stupidity.
Not going forward with power generation in Montana, would be a very serious mistake, you do not have to pump CO2 into the ground to clean the exhaust from power generators, Any and all fuels that require oxygen to burn, produce CO2, so regardless of what you are burning or believe about CO2, you can do what nature is already doing, you use water filtration, like a water treatment plant and save money, and use the nitrogen and carbon to in rich nitrogen/carbon compound depleted farm soil, that we grow our carbon base food on, for our carbon base bodies, and you do not turn underground drinking water in to ACID, or make natural gas un-flammable.
In 1890 Helena Montana was the richest city per capita, on earth. One of the oldest power grids on the planet, came from a dam, outside, Helena.
Helena was one of the first cities on the planet with electricity. Montana could be The Energy Capital of America.
Maybe Helena Montana should be the first city and state in the world to declare, CO2 is still a refrigerant, and carbon dioxide is required for life to exist on this planet.
We do not need to save this planet from mankind, we need to save mankind from himself.
This warming cycle began fourteen thousand years ago, not forty years ago, along with many (Little Ice Ages) and (Mini Ice Ages), and a computer model of climate change is only Hypothetical Conjecture, a ( guess ), and nothing more than a meteorological prognostication a (prediction).
If I Told You, I have a computer study of what would happen if we jumped over a cliff together, and you can not see over the cliff, and my computer model says it is only a two foot drop, and I tell you, I am over 90% certain, in my mind, that it is true, would you jump over the cliff with me ?
Yes, we have climate change, No, it is not caused by Dry Ice, pure CO2.
– We have had a lynching , with out a trial, with no proven evidence –
and the reason the Independent Record, or any media or government, does not print the evidence, that dry Ice pure CO2 causes warming ? Because the only evidence, proves, Dry Ice, pure CO2 causes cooling.
This is a formal request to the Independent Record, and the government, or anyone, to publish their scientific proof, that would be required for, and to defend legislation in or out of a court of law, that Dry Ice causes warming. If the government has no evidence, then it has no legal base to legislate from.
– Al Gore said so – is not scientific evidence.
For human Life to continue on this Planet, we need – sunlight – water- carbon – dioxide. The human body is – water and carbon and dioxide, we drink the water, eat the carbon, and inhale the dioxide, then exhale dioxide and carbon dioxide together, then plants and trees absorb the carbon again, to be carbon base food to eat for our carbon base bodies, leaving dioxide for carbon base life to inhale. The cycle of all life and energy.
The Laws of man are ever changing, The Laws of science never change, Mankind can only grow, to better understand the science.
With no proven science evidence, co2 causes warming, there is no fact, or truth, only belief and disagreement.
Legislation Based on hearsay is not Law, it is criminal, and a waste of taxpayer legislative time and money.
Removing carbon dioxide, will not, improve the environment, it will, damage the environment, but only for life, and the living.
This planet knows not, we are here, and will never know not, when we are gone, and sadly, the bottom line, is only profit and greed.
The greatest success, come from the greatest failures, but only, if you can grow, from the failure.
The ocean will rise again, twenty and more plus feet, just like it has, many times before.
To base science, and life, on computer prediction is Lunacy,
that is Ouija Board/Slot Machine science,
put your quarter in, pull down the arm, on the one armed bandit, and see what happens.
Bruce Kershaw
Helena, Montana
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